“And as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention.” – The Talking Heads

I’m sort of contemplating which out of several directions to go with my inquiry today. Undoubtedly, I have left several threads hanging which need to be got back to in due time, but at the same time, there are some threads that I haven’t even begun yet, such as how the whole peak oil situation ties into this.You may have noticed a few new links there on the side. I think most of them are self explanatory except for the one to Solari.com. If your interests don’t run to financial reform still take the time to scope out her analysis of what she calls ‘the tapeworm’ in the global economy. She also appears to have extensive inside knowledge of the narco/intel/paedophilia underbelly of american politics.

And why look at this? Well part of the point is to illustrate how spiritual sickness leads to perversions in every walk of life. Which brings me to BTK.

I only pick this particular sad sack of skin, because he’s current and very very typical. I have heard all kinds of estimates in terms of the numbers of serial killers out there, from as low as 35 in the united states at any given time, to as high as 500. I suspect it’s somewhere in the middle, but the fact that we don’t know, or we are not allowed to know, is troubling in and of itself.

Some people seem to have gotten confused by my posting here, partly because of my dramatic flourishes towards the end, which might seem to imply that I inextricably link human sacrifice, siddha powers, and psychopathology in some characteristic and definitive way. I’ll concede I was going more for impact than specificity of statement in that case. So allow me to clarify.

I don’t think anyone should have any difficult grasping the possibilty of a psychology that revolves around murder, torture, and the wish for godlike power. One really ought not to have look much farther than BTK and the video of his confession. Likewise, we’ve seen plenty of beliefs that might link torture and murder to occult power, particularly in serial killers, such as the Zodiac, who believed he was taking slaves to serve him in hell, or something like that.

And the reality of occult powers? well if you aint sufficiently convinced to roll with that premise, I probably aint the one to convince you.

So that leaves one linkage to be made, and that’s the kind of intense emotional/sexual/sadistic rush of power that accompanies ritualistically abusive practices. It doesn’t need to be sadistic or murderous. Uncle Al made plenty of use of sexual energies, as have tantrics and mystics for time out of mind, to motivate magickal or spiritual workings. But serial killers are an excellent example of the kind of person who gets addicted to an escalating cycle of sadistic behavior to feed an increasingly jaded and desensitized pathological personality. I’m sure some of them stop at torture, rape or emotional abuse. But some of them don’t, or won’t.

So given how ( intentionally?) hazy the numbers are on how many of these types of people are out there. ( and lets not even get started on the obfuscation on numbers of missing persons ) It’s not much of leap to imagine a handful of these budding or latent psychopaths finding their way into the legitimate occult subculture, not just a ritualistic fantasy trip, which is not to say that the two can’t coexist. What may be sadistic roleplaying to one guy could be something very very different to the guy next to him holding the knife.

Leaving the evidence for their existence aside, what is it that spurs the creation of these people in the first place? We don’t have much in the way of records to substantiate their existence very far into the past, at least not in the numbers we have today. There have always been monstrous individuals, but these days they seem to spread like weeds, and run amok almost unchecked.

My suspicion is very much like what I talked about in my earlier post. Is the spiritual seeker who takes a wrong turn really any different than the guy who never got the love he wanted, who never made a connection to society that he wanted? All because the traditional backbone of human societies, which is a connection to the transcendental principle, has been progressively and systematically obfuscated, distorted and subverted.

If you severely damage or simply totally misdirect the rudder for human experience, is it any wonder that some people go right off the map?

As a thought experiment, let’s imagine a world where one day, everyone wakes up and all experience of the divine, all authentic understanding of truth, all gnosis, all contact with a reality that exists outside of our egos, was completely gone. Where we’re all stuck in the kind of fantasy worlds the counter-initiates would like to see us in, whether it be the psychic one-world hellhole of Ben Creme/Maitreya or the techno-psychotic scifi book of revelations that the Scientologists would have you auditing your way into. What do you suppose would happen?

I think we would ALL be serial killers before too long. And from the traditional understanding of the cyclical cosmos, that is probably exactly what has happened. Many many times before…

But I think I’ll leave that for another time. Go hug someone you love.

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3 thoughts on “Where there is One there is the Other

  1. Some people seem to have gotten confused by my posting here, partly because of my dramatic flourishes towards the end, which might seem to imply that I inextricably link human sacrifice, siddha powers, and psychopatholgy in some characteristic and defintive way. I’ll concede I was going more for impact than specificity of statement in that case. So allow me to clarify.

    I don’t think anyone should have any difficult grasping the possibilty of a psychology that revolves around murder, torture, and the wish for godlike power. One really ought not to have look much farther than BTK and the video of his confession. Likewise, we’ve seen plenty of beliefs that might link torture and murder to occult power, particularly in serial killers, such as the Zodiac, who believed he was taking slaves to serve him in hell, or something like that.

    And the reality of occult powers? well if you aint sufficently convinced to roll with that premise, I probably aint the one to convince you.

    So that leaves one linkage to be made, and that’s the kind of intense emotional/sexual/sadistic rush of power that accompanies ritualisticly abusive practices. It doesn’t need to be sadistic or murderous. Uncle Al made plenty of use of sexual energies, as have tantrics and mystics for time out of mind, to motivate magickal or spiritual workings. But serial killers are an excellent example of the kind of person who gets addicted to an escalating cycle of sadistic behavior to feed an increasingly jaded and desensitised pathological personality. I’m sure some of them stop at torture, rape or emotional abuse. But some of them don’t, or won’t.

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    LOL. Sorry Zach, for misunderstanding you. I understand now what you meant but I am going through my own sort of attemot to reconcile disparate paradigmns and I may have read too much into what you wrote.

    I read a book by this author:

    Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America
    Revised Edition (Paperback)
    by James Randall Noblitt, Pamela Sue Perskin

    … a year or so ago and it really pissed me off, the guy’s idea was that the initiation rituals of traditional cultures are basically exercises in traumatic programming, that spirts do not exist but instead represent disassociated psychic fragments which are generated as the result of abuse, etc.

    I first ran across Noblitt in 1997 actually, when I was researching the gnostic response to Roman persecution. Now the gnostic idea, generally speaking, was that Christains who confessed cChrist and so volunteered for death in the Roman arenas were exhibitionists and masochists, that the gods they were dying for were no better than the emperors, etc. The Gnostics basically went underground and practiced a form of passive resistance instead.

    ANywho, there’s a passage in the Gospel of Philip which says “In the beginning people sacrificed animals, now they sacrifice men, because the beings the are dying for are not God” (not an exact quote, but you get the idea)

    Anywho, this Noblitt character took this as proof that the Gnostics practiced human sacrifice when even a cursory understanding of the history of the period would have clued him into the fact that they were instead practicing a form of RESISTANCE to what they perceived as human sacrifice.

    Well… thathas not much to do with anything but maybe now you know where i was coming from. Your description of the psychology of rituals and the rush that comes with it maybe did quite hit pretty close to home for me and so brought out some of the ambiguity in my own psyche about ritual practice, things that I do not in my capacity as a gnostic but as an occultist (two differnet arenas). So because the description was so dead-on (you really had me right up until the Laveyan rhetoric about humans being just abnother animal) it forced me to question myself in a way that was pretty uncomfortable.

    Now, I think I understand what you were talking about – ritual abusers, sociopaths and psychopaths of the sort who are in the news now and the focus of blogs such as these. IMHO these are folks who use spirituality as a cover for their activities – maybe as a justification to themselves and so what they do has very little in common with the activities of (for example) Filipino psychic surgeons or Tibetan Shamen or what have you.

    This Noblitt guy puts Bundy and BTK and dahmer and Bohemian grove and Tantriks and Gnostics and Hoodooists all in the same pot and then condemns the whole pot as evil, so perhaps I was still carrying my desire to refute that misconception with me to your blog when I encountered yer article.

    I have NEVER met ANY traditional healer type who has ANY interest in human sacrifice or child abuse, those things are anathema to traditional schools of sprit working. Then again, those things arose in a different cultural context where the witchdoctor is or was seen as a part of the community, his job is to help and protect the tribe, its not an expression of the sort of isolate and glacially selfish individuality that characterizes post-industrial cultures where people do tend to be more elitist, cut-off, darwinian etc.

    The movie “The 9th gate” is a good example, I think, Johnny Depp is the one who meets Lucifer and takes him/her on as a protecting spirit. He himself is a sincere seeker in search of knowledge. All of the other people in the groups he keeps meeting are dabbling for reasons of political power and personal sadism, but the very spirit they hew towards doesn’t even recognize them!

    The spirits want nothing to do with mind-control cults or torture IMHO. THats not on their agenda. They’re not interested in people who follow but in those who understand, and what kind of holy person would fuck kids or kill innocent people? Those things aren’t spiritual they are evidence of psychological dysfunction and severe soul loss IMHO.

    I must admit at the same time that I am and remain somewhat sceptical about thewhole idea of organized cultic rituial abuse, the same charge was levied against the Christians by the Romans, against the Gnostics by the Christains, and against the Jews by the Catholic church but no evidence has ever been found of it. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist and maybe I just am naive about human nature but it still is hard for me to believe that people would actually be that depraved.

    Then again I suppose Auschwitz shows us that anything is possible, doesn’t it?

  2. Leaving the evidence for their existance aside, what is it that spurs the creation of these people in the first place?

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    empty souls, hollow cores, soul loss, abuse, trauma, spiritual predators & parasites

  3. As a thought experiment, let’s imagine a world where one day, everyone wakes up and all experience of the divine, all authentic understanding of truth, all gnosis, all contact with a reality that exists outside of our egos, was completely gone.

    Thought experiment? Aren’t we already almost there?

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